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	<title>Comments on: Hip hop music (Rap music)</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-1975</link>
		<author>Aaron</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think that rap music is defined by the content and the intent as much as the style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that rap music is defined by the content and the intent as much as the style.</p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-1976</link>
		<author>Truden</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-1976</guid>
					<description>That's true for anything, not for rap music only.
But when we are searching for the roots we are looking at the style.
When we are attaching traditions, we are looking at the style.
Somehow they menage to attach roots and traditions (for the rap) taking them from Africa, where there is no sign for such a style.

Another thing: &lt;strong&gt;culture needs language&lt;/strong&gt;.
African Americans do not use African language, therefore their culture can not be defined as African, but only as American. One can not say that "black" American culture derives from Africa, because the African language is dead in that ("black") culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true for anything, not for rap music only.<br />
But when we are searching for the roots we are looking at the style.<br />
When we are attaching traditions, we are looking at the style.<br />
Somehow they menage to attach roots and traditions (for the rap) taking them from Africa, where there is no sign for such a style.</p>
<p>Another thing: <strong>culture needs language</strong>.<br />
African Americans do not use African language, therefore their culture can not be defined as African, but only as American. One can not say that &#8220;black&#8221; American culture derives from Africa, because the African language is dead in that (&#8221;black&#8221;) culture.</p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2000</link>
		<author>ivan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2000</guid>
					<description>*test 2* how come i cant see my reply ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*test 2* how come i cant see my reply ?</p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2001</link>
		<author>Truden</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2001</guid>
					<description>Probably because it is not topic related ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because it is not topic related ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2002</link>
		<author>ivan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2002</guid>
					<description>^ soz about that !

the roots of hip-hop trace back millenia with the African oral traditions of the Griots. 

much scientific evidence informs us that Africa was probably the first region on Earth to bear human life so it is quite probable that the practice of rhythmically recited poetry in Africa far precedes anything Caucasian (eg Balkan) in origin.

btw, i only came across this site cause i've just named my newborn son Truden. I thought i had made up the name but it looks like someone got there first!

haven't read your other blogs yet but based on the tone of this one, im hoping you're not a redneck.


as you say hip-hop as a 'style' of music came out in the early 70's. that doesn't mean it's constituent parts were not already extant, does it?

i'm sure some Balkan music contains Singing but you wouldn't expect someone to dispute the authenticity of it by asserting that other Singing occured prior to Balkan folk music ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ soz about that !</p>
<p>the roots of hip-hop trace back millenia with the African oral traditions of the Griots. </p>
<p>much scientific evidence informs us that Africa was probably the first region on Earth to bear human life so it is quite probable that the practice of rhythmically recited poetry in Africa far precedes anything Caucasian (eg Balkan) in origin.</p>
<p>btw, i only came across this site cause i&#8217;ve just named my newborn son Truden. I thought i had made up the name but it looks like someone got there first!</p>
<p>haven&#8217;t read your other blogs yet but based on the tone of this one, im hoping you&#8217;re not a redneck.</p>
<p>as you say hip-hop as a &#8217;style&#8217; of music came out in the early 70&#8217;s. that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s constituent parts were not already extant, does it?</p>
<p>i&#8217;m sure some Balkan music contains Singing but you wouldn&#8217;t expect someone to dispute the authenticity of it by asserting that other Singing occured prior to Balkan folk music ?</p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2003</link>
		<author>Truden</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2003</guid>
					<description>Well, I'm not putting the roots of rap music on the Balkans :D
I'm just saying that this style is widely used in that region.
I'm Bulgarian, living in South Africa, and from all my researches I did not come to a single proof for this style in African music.

Congratulations for the Truden name of your son.
May God give him long life and happiness.

Truden in Bulgarian language means "difficult" and also "pregnant" (old usage).
My real name is Nikolay, but "Truden" came very naturally as my nickname.

Hope I'll see you around :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not putting the roots of rap music on the Balkans :D<br />
I&#8217;m just saying that this style is widely used in that region.<br />
I&#8217;m Bulgarian, living in South Africa, and from all my researches I did not come to a single proof for this style in African music.</p>
<p>Congratulations for the Truden name of your son.<br />
May God give him long life and happiness.</p>
<p>Truden in Bulgarian language means &#8220;difficult&#8221; and also &#8220;pregnant&#8221; (old usage).<br />
My real name is Nikolay, but &#8220;Truden&#8221; came very naturally as my nickname.</p>
<p>Hope I&#8217;ll see you around :)</p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2007</link>
		<author>Truden</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2007</guid>
					<description>Here you can listen &lt;em&gt;(and see)&lt;/em&gt; traditional Griots music:

&lt;a onclick="window.open('http://mnogo.truden.com/video/griots.html','griots', 'left=120,top=120,width=444,height=368,toolbar=0,resizable=1')" href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img title="Click to play video" alt="Click to play video" src="http://mnogo.truden.com/wp-images/youtube.gif" border="0" /&gt;
Video embed in pop-up window&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you can listen <em>(and see)</em> traditional Griots music:</p>
<p><a onclick="window.open('http://mnogo.truden.com/video/griots.html','griots', 'left=120,top=120,width=444,height=368,toolbar=0,resizable=1')" href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow"><img title="Click to play video" alt="Click to play video" src="http://mnogo.truden.com/wp-images/youtube.gif" border="0" /><br />
Video embed in pop-up window</a></p>
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		<title>By: Truden</title>
		<link>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2008</link>
		<author>Truden</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mnogo.truden.com/archives/122.html#comment-2008</guid>
					<description>And here is one more Romanian song in which melody and rhyming are mixed and used in a genius way.

&lt;a href="http://mnogo.truden.com/music/Uhai_Bade.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Uhai Bade&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;(Maria Tănase)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is one more Romanian song in which melody and rhyming are mixed and used in a genius way.</p>
<p><a href="http://mnogo.truden.com/music/Uhai_Bade.mp3" rel="nofollow">Uhai Bade</a> <em>(Maria Tănase)</em></p>
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